The Gretzky Effect in sales coaching

Jun 5, 2023 | Sales

“Wayne Gretzky is the greatest player in the game of hockey. The game came really easy to him. He saw the game very differently. The moment he went behind the bench. How did he do as a coach? He was average. But as a player? Nobody is even close”, says Karl Ortmanns ☁, VP of Sales at Agorapulse.

In sales coaching, we have this Wayne Gretzky effect, too — those who were great at selling actually struggle to coach it. They struggle with what to ask, understand where the coachees are, or how to pull the information out of reps rather than telling them what to do.

Lisa Hubbard, VP of Sales & Marketing at The Vernon Company adds: “Sales leaders lack sales coaching tools and resources to coach, so managers have to do the research by themselves and then build decks for their teams.”

The sales methodologies usually do not teach sales leaders how to coach sellers. “There is a huge inconsistency in how they coach, which creates inconsistencies in revenue as well.” as Ruby Raley, VP sales and alliances, explains.

So, what is the solution? According to Adam Wainwright, Director of Sales at Clari, “Sales coaching is all about creating a repeatable cadence. We focus on celebrating the engagement, not the activity. The funnel will follow. Engagement is a far better leading indicator for success because it can be coached.” By creating a repeatable process, sales managers can ensure that their coaching is consistent and effective.

However, coaching is not just about the process. It’s also about the personal reward that comes from helping others level up, as Josh Van Dyk, VP of Sales at Censhare, notes. It’s about helping sellers to self-assess their feelings throughout the sales meeting so they can become more mindful”, as Chris Karlin, VP of Sales at Superb AI, emphasizes. It’s important sellers see you as a coach and not a judge and you must be coachable yourself first to be effective, as Bob Horn, a CRO highlighted. It’s also about breaking down goals into actionable plans and holding sellers accountable, as Kelli Denes, Director of Business Development at Vernon, points out. And it’s about focusing on one thing at a time, as Christy Naranjo, Sales Director, SMB at Culture Amp, suggests, “Do not coach 10 things a salesperson should get better at. Focus only on 1-2 skills at a time to build a habit.”

On the other hand, some exceptional CCOs also prefer bringing outsiders for sales coaching because they do not know what they do not know, like Glenn Wirick, CCO from AdhereHealth.

In Ortmann’s teams, they have war room every week. Everybody goes for 5 minutes in the same structure. We start with a lost deal, then a stuck deal, and a win. We want to hear the story behind the story, and the whole team is asking deeper. If a team is not willing to give advice, it’s not a team.

And all of a sudden, you see that people start doing this with their teammates and helping each other. Now you have a culture of learning.

The salespeople that are willing to help the most are the right people to promote as leaders. The question we should ask about our sales leaders is: how many leaders did they create? Because leaders create leaders.

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Petr’s journey led from breakdancing, failed startups and burnout to financial retirement at 34. Mentored by 300+ global business leaders since age 22, Petr scaled a startup with 110% annual growth (3 years in a row) and launch 4 commercially successful products across the EU and USA.

Petr coached 8K+ business leaders in 16 countries, from high-growth startups to giants like T-Mobile, AXA, Merck, ABB, Uber and IKEA. As a Google Launchpad speaker and TechStars Mentor, he’s guided founders in sales, GTM, leadership, and org design, driving $80M+ in client growth.

His ability to connect GTM, org psychology, B2B sales, and leadership is why PwC asked him to become a Partner (JBR). A certified Revenue Architect at Winning By Design and a negotiation graduate from Harvard, Petr integrates tactical B2B sales, culture, neuroscience and GTM into practical systems.



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